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THIS IS NOT A KID FRIENDLY EVENT. *SWEARING and lots of ROASTING ALERT

Come join us as representatives from both the puppetry and animation communities debate the use of their respective art forms in television and film. Vote to let us know who you think should win this smackdown.


Moderator: Fatimah Abdullah, Executive Producer Primal Screen & ASIFA South Board of Directors

Guest Panelist:

Judge: Thessaly Lerner

From: Animation: Mark Simon

From Puppetry: Raymond Carr

From Motion Capture: James Martin



Raymond Carr is a puppeteer who has performed at every major city in North America and parts of Europe working on multi-million dollar productions. He is skilled in state of the art animatronics, Muppet-style puppetry, motion capture digital puppetry, and traditional theatrical puppetry. Raymond is one of the main characters for the Jim Henson Company’s new show, Splash and Bubbles on PBS Kids. Some of Raymond’s other credits include: BBC’s Moon and Me Nick Jr’s LazyTown, Stoopid Buddy Stoodios, Walking with Dinosaurs The Arena Spectacular Tour, various projects for Cartoon Network & Adult Swim, The Center for Puppetry Art, IFC’s Stan Against Evil, and numerous commercials for companies.


Mark Simon, also known as the "Godfather of Storyboarding) is an Emmy Award-winning veteran storyboard artist and director with over 30 years of experience working in the entertainment industry as a producer and director for live action and animation, writing and lecturing, and amassing over 5000 production credits. From The Walking Dead, Stranger Things, to Dynasty, Mark has worked with various studios from founding Nickelodeon Studio in Florida to Netflix and more. He also owns Animatics & Storyboards Inc, the largest supplier of storyboard production in South East US


Thessaly Lerner Creative force is a TV show and content creator, writer, producer, director, voiceover actress, ideator and comedic musical entertainer known as The Ukulady.

Born in an electric storm in Northern California, Lerner grew up amongst the offspring of San Francisco’s 1960’s artistic and social visionaries and creates content reflecting her roots, promoting fearlessness, intellectualism, creativity, kindness, friendship and the Downfall of Evil. A voiceover talent since 1998, Lerner has worked for thousands of clients. In 2014, Lerner created/sold/wrote/produced/directed her first animated series, Astrid Strudelman, the Unicorn Whisperer, to Dreamworks TV. She stars in 13 short episodes, now available on Amazon Prime. Lerner is constantly writing/creating/pitching new shows and ideas. An award-winning playwright, Lerner holds a BFA in acting from Emerson College, spent 10 years in San Francisco’s theater world, 15 years in LA and is currently based in Atlanta..